Skip Simms: Venture Capital in Michigan

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As described in our last segment, the Michigan Pre-Seed Capital Fund matches equity investments by venture capitalists, angels, and others in early stage ventures. In this segement Skip Simms, the fund's manager, describes the state of venture capital in Michigan...

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Skip makes three points:

  • On a national scale, Michigan falls in the mid to lower mid tier of states when venture capital activity is measured in number of firms or assets under management. The state is attempting to improve its position with the Venture Michigan and Twenty-First Century Jobs funds.
  • If a Michigan company seeks venture capital and wishes to stay in Michigan, they will most likely work with a local Michigan venture capital firm. Even if the company gets funding from out-of-state venture capitalists, those venture capitalists will want someone with local presence as an investment partner.
  • Michigan venture capitalists, like venture capitalists in the rest of the country, invest incrementally, waiting to see the extent to which the initial investment is succeeding before investing more. Over the 10 year life of an investment fund, they seek to provide a return of two to four times to their limited partner investors.

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Mark Osborne on October 26, 2008 9:04 PM
I must say that before watching this interview, I never really knew much about venture capitalists. After watching this, I actually found this field to be quite interesting. After listening to this interview, it actually filled my head with questions. For instance, how does a venture capital firm always know when they will return their investment? How do they know what firms will in turn be a good investment? How do they know what is the right amount to invest into a company? As I would like to have my own business someday, this might be a area that would be of concern to me as a way to fund my business. Is a venture capital firm a good way to go even if you are a small firm with a revenue income under a $1,000,000 or should you look elsewhere? This interview was very interesting and also helpful to me.
Sheri Emmons on November 2, 2008 9:36 AM
As an inspiring entrepreneur the topic of venture capital in Michigan struck my attention. Before this interview segment I knew a little about venture capital but this interview put the concept into perspective. A small business must have a strong business plan established in order to convince a venture capital investment. Venture capital firms are looking for high returns and a profitable exit strategy. It makes perfect sense that a venture capital firm would take there investing efforts slowly. By injecting small amounts of money (1 million) at a time this assures the firms will not loose all of their investment if the small business does not succeed in it’s early stages of business. A venture capital firm can be more interested in a start up business due to the return in investment. Usually the firm has interest in the business through common stock or convertible preferred stock, this will allow the firm in sit on the board and become involved with the decisions. Having a venture capital firm based out of Michigan is very helpful to the small business since the availability of meeting on short notice is possible. I feel this business relationship is ideal for an entrepreneur that believes their business will take off like a rocket. It’s hard as an entrepreneur to come up with the initial funds to start the business. This interview served as quality information for any entrepreneur needing answers to lack of start up funds.
Venture capitalists are one of the most interesting topics for business students, especially those looking to one day start a business of their own. As the interview mentioned, the state of Michigan is in the middle, nationally, of the VC pool, with funds in the $20-$75 million range. One of the most refreshing parts of this video was what wasn’t said, that even in Michigan, with its struggling economy and high unemployment, there are still VC firms looking to invest in the future. As well, these companies keep lending money in the face of a significant credit crisis that is impacting economies around the world. Although they make up about 7% of the funding for all private businesses, VC firms have been involved in bringing some of the biggest companies in the world to life, including Google, Microsoft, Apple and FedEx. Entrepreneurs looking for VC support need to be well prepared for the extremely high cost of doing business with this type of firm. Like all debt financing, a solid business plan must be in place long before contacting a VC. Firms tend to take many months deciding where to put their money, and often look for an established track record of success as well as a viable exit strategy and the ability to recover some of their investment. As well, the VC will demand a hefty percentage of the company, as much as 70% at times, in return for their investment. They will also expect a seat of the board of directors of the company. VC firms are going to challenge the competency of management, determine whether or not the company has a competitive edge and look at high growth industries before lending money. If they do choose to invest, they are going to do it strategically with multiple cash injections at various times, limiting their exposure as the new company evolves. On one hand, these VC companies can seem vicious, with their demands and expectations. However, they come with significant experience and resources that can make the different in a fledgling company. I was surprised to learn that it is becoming common for multiple VC’s to work on the same companies, with one taking the lead. This is quite a departure from the early 21st century, when VC’s fought tooth and nail to get their money into many of the dot com companies. Obviously like the rest of us, the VC’s realize we are dealing with a significantly different economy.
Karina Vaks on November 13, 2008 8:57 PM
I found venture capital and the funds introduced in the interview to be quite interesting. I never thought that Michigan ranked where it did in terms of venture capital. I thought it would be higher on the list than middle to low. I thought it was interesting how the venture capital firms operate. Mr. Simms mentions that it is common for a VC firm to be the lead firm who has a member on the board at the company they are investing in, and to have other VC firms go in on the deal with them. I did not know that most funds only last ten years, which makes me wonder how and when an escape plan in created for the ten year mark or do they continue to sit on the board.
Jennifer Ahlers on November 16, 2008 8:27 PM
It doesn’t surprise me to hear that MI with the way the economy is right now is in the half to lower tier for states when venture capitalist is measured. However, I do appreciate the fact that the venture capitalist that do work with Michigan's entrepreneurs are working with smaller businesses. I believe that there are a lot of potential business owners that need help when it comes to investment needs in Michigan. It seems that the only way I was able to get financing would be through debt capital. As you know this will require me to have to pay interest on my loan which could add up to be a hefty sum, depending on how much I require. I really appreciated this interview because I was not aware of the benefits and opportunities that VC in Michigan offers to new entrepreneurs. However I was wondering what you would suggest for someone like myself who is thinking planning on opening a small bakery. As you might know a bakery is probably not going to seek investments of $3 million to $10 million in the first year to make it worth a VC while to invest in my business. What would you suggest? Would you as a fund manager see investing in a smaller? Sincerely Jennifer Ahlers
Cerynthia Edwards on November 17, 2008 2:46 PM
Before viewing this interview, I knew very little about venture capitalist and the extent of their investing. However, over the last few interviews that I have taken a look at, none of the entrepreneurs want funding from a venture capital investor because they want the freedom of running their own company and not having someone over their shoulder asking millions of questions or worst of all taking over their business. This caused me to do a little bit more research to get a better understanding of venture capital. The two types of venture capitals that I have studied during my management courses have been the Corporate Venture Capitalist that are large corporations that are in the business of financing small companies such as Motorola, Qualcomm, Intel, General Electric, Dow Chemical, Cisco Systems, UPS, Wal-mart and others. The other type is the venture capital company, who purchase equity in new businesses that they believe possess high growth and high profit potential. The Michigan Pre-Seed Capital fund works with early stage technology companies and they match other investments or grants. It is very easy up believe that the venture capital in Michigan is in the mid to low half of the state in terms of Michigan against the U.S. Being a future entrepreneur in Michigan, this is certainly a subject that I will be conducting much more research on so that I make the best decision for my companies success.
Alan E. Bradford on November 17, 2008 5:45 PM
Like the last segment on venture investors Skip Simms interview was a lot clearer. He explains how venture capital would help your business venture. Rather then the Terry Cross Angel investor’s interview. Skip gives you a lot of insight on what an investor is looking for and what an entrepreneur should be looking for out of an investment. I also like how Capital Ventures is searching for investment in the technology field in the state of Michigan. With investments in the technology industries that will help bring jobs to the state economy, who knows they might invest in a technology entrepreneur that would help the auto industry in the state of Michigan. The thought of if an entrepreneur receives investments for an out of state investor that they still have to stay instate is a vast economic strategy. To me personally Capital Venture seems to be a more promising investor then Angel investors, even if you have to do research or more then likely know some one that works for them. Capital venture also seek to provide a return of two to four to their limited partners investors, over a ten year life investment fund.
Alan E. Bradford on November 17, 2008 5:46 PM
Like the last segment on venture investors Skip Simms interview was a lot clearer. He explains how venture capital would help your business venture. Rather then the Terry Cross Angel investor’s interview. Skip gives you a lot of insight on what an investor is looking for and what an entrepreneur should be looking for out of an investment. I also like how Capital Ventures is searching for investment in the technology field in the state of Michigan. With investments in the technology industries that will help bring jobs to the state economy, who knows they might invest in a technology entrepreneur that would help the auto industry in the state of Michigan. The thought of if an entrepreneur receives investments for an out of state investor that they still have to stay instate is a vast economic strategy. To me personally Capital Venture seems to be a more promising investor then Angel investors, even if you have to do research or more then likely know some one that works for them. Capital venture also seek to provide a return of two to four to their limited partners investors, over a ten year life investment fund.
Having a venture capital firm in Michigan would be very helpful, if I were planning to stay in Michigan. I have to wonder if they would be willing to look at my plan and consider investing in my Florida based business. Simms provided a lot of information on what I would need to have in order to get an investor to consider investing in my business idea. It is no surprise to me, however, that Michigan ranks in the middle at best amongst the states, becuase Michigan's economy is getting worse and worse by the day. This idea of Venture Capital is something that I'm going to have to look into more.
NyAngel O'Neal on November 18, 2008 3:05 PM
Hello my name is NyAngel O’Neal and I’m a student at Eastern Michigan University and this semester I’m enrolled in an entrepreneur class. This semester we are learning about different businesses and entrepreneurship. I viewed the interview of Skip Simms Venture Capital in Michigan. This fund is a state wide investment fund. In the interview he stated that Michigan falls in mid to lower tier. I was wondering how Michigan can increase to a higher tier. The interview also discusses how Michigan is working on improving the different venture in the 21St century in Michigan. Hopefully, that can help Michigan move in the tiers. It seems like VC has a track record of increasing their return within two to four years. This seems like once VC get going they will help different companies out in Michigan. This may be what Michigan needs to get everyone motivate again. I enjoyed viewing the interview; I think this company will make a large impact in Michigan. Another point in the interview I notice is that VC wants companies to stay in Michigan even if they get funding from out of state venture. By having companies stay in Michigan they want outsource to another state or even out the country.
Jessica Cook on November 18, 2008 4:31 PM
I found the interview with Skip Simms to be very insightful because I don't know much about venture capital. I like the fact that he broke down which type of capital would be best for a each type of business. I think that most people starting a new business would think that they need a larger firm to back them in order to be successful. I like the fact that venture capital would like the companies to stay in Michigan even if the funding is from out of state. I think this could help Michigan by providing more jobs in the state. I think that venture captial is trying to do their part in making Michigan a successful place to start a business.
Dariusz Seklecki on November 18, 2008 5:21 PM
After watching this video and the other one on angel innovators, I am surprised that companies like this exist. This is very good to have especially for early stage ventures like the memory clock. I like VC because they want companies to stay in Michigan and this is the time that we really need it with the economy getting worse I think VC is great for us. I would like to know more about this company.

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